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we're going to be talking about Trump
declaring martial law this is what
Democrats are saying of course is going
to happen on April 20th they've been
warning about this that President Trump
is going to seize power he's going to
use the US military birthday okay well
that maybe that's what exactly the
symbolism of that 420 taking control of
the US southern border and putting
military members members in the military
all across the United States to make
sure that you that he's grabbing power
so we're going to talk about that plus
Iran Petsth the dire defense secretary
over the weekend saying that uh better
get to the negotiating table or they
will specifically being used massive
military attacks against Iran we're
going to talk about that in today's show
plus the European Union admits that it
is taking this climate money that they
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first place do you think why was that
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people with Trump derangement syndrome
President Trump is about to declare
martial law on April 20th and use
wartime powers to round up political
enemies of course so you only have six
days left to prepare for Trump's martial
law this is exactly what Democrat James
Carville is saying this morning here it
is democrats in full panic mode over
absurd conspiracy that Trump will
declare martial law on April 20th we
want to bring in Daniel McAdams now from
the uh Ron Paul Institute he's he is the
executive director of the Ron Paul
Institute to talk about this because I
also want to talk about with Daniel this
and Iran two big stories that we want to
kind of get to today daniel good to see
you again welcome back to the show thank
you so much it's great to be back back
with you guys so let's just go through
this because and you can help us make
sense of this i'm just going to go
through this Gateway Pundant article
here so uh the left is melting down it
reads once again and this time over a
tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory that
President Donald Trump is preparing to
declare martial law on April 20th it's a
blue andon fantasy of their own the
source of this hysteria James Carville
he was just on the war room where he
talked about what would happen under
President Trump using uh martial law he
says "You're so correct to be concerned
about this it's getting worse by the day
it's not going to stop getting worse and
I would be we ought to be on high
alert." And basically Daniel it seems
like the left's panic according to the
Gateway Pundit stems from a total
misreading of his January 20th executive
order
putting US military on the US southern
border and by putting tens of thousands
of forces which he's already been doing
on the southern border this is the
source of the problem is that how you
read it yeah when I first got the link
from your team I thought "Oh my gosh I
hope they don't believe this this is the
craziest thing I've heard." I mean there
are a lot of things to be critical of
Trump about but if I were Trump I'd be
happy if these were my adversaries and
my enemies because they're so dumb um
you know they they bring things up like
this caravville is not doing himself or
his allies any favors now there are some
concerns about what Trump is doing with
some deportations uh and that is a fact
but rather than address those
specifically and on principle they throw
out this hyperbolic stuff that will
basically just discredit their argument
so will Trump do that you know I'm not a
betting man but I would bet that he's
not going to do that uh he's not going
to shut down the country because we've
got a border problem uh so I I you know
Caravville I don't know what he's
smoking these days but it's not it's too
strong i I maybe he's just trying to
keep his relevancy it seems like that um
but specifically the US military will
occupy public land on the southern
border to create along the sort of
buffer zone um
that theore Roosevelt had put in place
back in
1907 but of course Democrats are
painting this as like a land grab by the
United States military but you can see
here this actual buffer zone here as it
goes across the United States um and it
has basically it allows the American
it's like 60 foot deep basically is this
public land that Teddy Roosevelt put in
place so it's not a land grab it's been
there over a hundred years
you have to ask yourself why are they so
opposed to stopping people from coming
to this country illegally you know I
mean is it voters are looking for maybe
have a get a better platform guys you
know think of some better stuff to say
and maybe you'll attract some voters you
know what do they have against this now
there can be some problems if you overm
militarize if you use the military in
ways that they really shouldn't be used
because they're trained to blow stuff up
and kill people and that's what we want
them to do um so you know you can
question some of that but just to
question the fact that by all objective
standards illegal border crossings have
crashed since Trump has come to office
and most Americans believe that's a very
good thing you know right right well
let's talk about what Democrats think
though because a new Ruters poll out
this weekend shows that 55% of Dem
Democrats think it's okay or maybe even
preferable to assassinate the president
they're fully on board with this and
over the weekend Alex Jones was on
Tucker Carlson and uh if you listen to
this he says "Yeah this is you know this
is James Carville's leading and
Democrats like it." Listen and then when
they knew Trump was going to win because
the poll numbers were so incredible a
few months before the last election last
year uh Rascin Carville Podesta all of
them said civil war conditions we're
going to need to have uprisings carville
said that uh Trump's coming to kill you
we got to rise up carbal said and others
and they are clearly escalating with the
Tesla attacks and the swatting attacks
and the calls for violence the 55% of
you know liberal Democrats in a study
want Trump killed
they are embracing you know real
terrorism real domestic terrorism and
that's building towards what I believe
is in the cards because you see the
Democrat pundits and their operatives
everywhere before the election and after
it in the last 78 you know days or so
saying once he got in office Trump and
Tom Hman are going to kill migrants and
when they do uh there's going to be an
uprising and well Trump's not going to
go mow down people at the illegal alien
demonstration uh you also have them
saying Trump supporters are going to
attack black people well where would
black people be alone in big numbers a
church university uh Trump supporters
are going to kill black people and we
know a lot of the globalist groups have
been funding white supremist groups and
domestic terror groups and basically run
them historic okay so one of the things
that he goes on to say is what Democrats
don't know is that if they were to
succeed the eventuality of what happens
if President Trump were in fact
assassinated would be far worse but he
doesn't extrapolate so what do you think
would happen in terms of far worse total
chaos what is your read of that well I
have to say it's very sad you know I
moved to barely postcommunist Eastern
Europe right as the wall fell and what I
saw there is families that were so
involved in politics it meant so much to
them that they literally would hate
other family members and I remember at
the time thinking how insane this is we
weren't like that in America we had
differences but we didn't flip out and
alienate family members politics in
America has become so important to
Americans that they will literally talk
about assassinating someone folks get
real it doesn't it's never going to
matter you as much who is the president
it's not going to matter in your
everyday lives it's very very sad to see
this and that's why conservatives like
us and libertarians the argument is to
reduce the role of government in our
lives so you don't have this insane
derangement syndrome
yeah and it is out of hand i mean the
derangement is crazy right now and you
know as a lot of people in our chat room
are saying right now you know Alex Jones
nailed this i mean he nailed this
repeatedly and he nails he's nailing it
again right now so ju this interview
with Tucker predates this James Carville
commentary which is crazy to me he was
talking about James Carville making
these you know that we're going to see
Tom Holman the US military is going to
kill immigrants and then here we have it
like 2 days later it's kind of insane um
I know people can say whatever they want
about Alex Jones but he nails it i mean
repeatedly and just to be clear about
this Department of Defense jurisdiction
over these lands Daniel the soldiers
have the right to detain illegal aliens
as they would if if they were
trespassing on a United States military
base in other words this 60 ft plot of
land treats that 60ft plot of land as if
it's a military base so the military
then has the right to detain these
illegal aliens until they're handed over
to immigration authorities um as if they
were just invading Fort Bragg isn't that
is that the way you read it as well i
think it's a great deterrent as well i
mean under Biden if they got over there
they'd hand them a wick card or you know
a debit card here a couple thousand
bucks on it you know um and they're
going to what are they going to do
they're going to pass the word back to
their relatives where they came from hey
you're not going to believe this when
you get there they give you a card and
you get free stuff you know so having
the military on the on the border as a
deterrent what are they going to say
when they call back man it was terrible
i couldn't get through there were guys
with big guns forget it guys cancel the
crossing so that's what you want you
want a deterrent well not only that is
that they are unsafe on the way there as
they go through these drug lands they
are the the they're victims of predators
which are the cartel on the south end of
the border and so those people those
dead ladies who have been raped and
kidnapped and their babies taken those
dead ladies tail no tales like Davy
Jones locker right and so how can we get
that word it's not just I mean the US
soldiers are the least of your worries
on your way north right yeah the
predators the coyotes the child
traffickers the perverts and weirdos i
mean they they just thrive in that kind
of an environment so absolutely you
think about kids crossing the border in
areas like that so I mean the soldiers
are there I think as a great deterrent
uh to people uh don't it's no longer
open season you can't come in you know
and I'm I'm in favor of lots of
immigration if it's legal and I think a
lot of recently arrived people are in
favor but they're among the most opposed
to illegal immigration because they
waited in line and they did it the right
way right yeah i was talking to a group
of Mexicanameans who were here they
waited in line to get their citizenship
and they this Mexican American said said
"The greatest threat to me and my living
and my way of life is Mexicans who come
here illegally i just about fell out of
my chair when he said it but he was
admitting it openly." And uh he's right
because they'll take his job and so I I
find that absolutely fascinating i want
to talk about Iran here before we get
you out of here daniel over the weekend
uh Secretary of Defense Pete Hgsth was
on with uh Maria Barto Romo and was
asked about Iran whether these
negotiations are moving forward um
direct negotiations with Iran not just
using Israel as like a an endound proxy
to get there and here's what he had to
say about attacking Iran if Iran doesn't
want to come to the table watch
we've had direct talks yesterday they
began in the past it's been indirect
talks with a mediator but there's Steve
Whit meeting with the foreign minister
of Iran what can he tell us well I can
tell you that President Trump is dead
serious on this issue he's he's dead
serious uh that Iran cannot have a
nuclear weapon he's said that for 20
years he's been consistent that is clear
dead He's dead serious that he wants it
done at the negotiating table he wants
it done peacefully and that's why he's
going straight to these talks he set
that deadline these were productive
talks yesterday i don't want to get
ahead of our skis steve Whit does a
fantastic job but it was a good step and
they're going to they're going to go at
it again on Saturday but he's also dead
serious that if if we can't figure this
out at the negotiating table then there
are other options to include my
department uh to ensure that Iran never
has a nuclear bomb we hope we never get
there we really do Maria uh but what
we're doing with the Houthis and what
we're doing in the region we've shown a
capability to go far to go deep and to
go big and again we don't want to do
that but if we have to we will to
prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hand
you know Daniel when I read that when I
hear that I I I want to be a positive
person and think that yes we want
negotiation negotiation but it seems
like there's people surrounding the
president who absolutely want us to go
to war with Iran and I I know that
firsthand actually there's people near
Trump that ab absolutely want to follow
the Netanyahu plan to go to war it
sounds like just hearing Hexath talk
there it doesn't really sound like they
want these negotiations to work out am I
wrong about that well the thing that
really struck me is you're offering up
our our our war against the Houthis as a
as a show of success you know dude you
you spent you spent a billion dollars in
three weeks and all you did is blow up a
tribal gathering and blow up the the
drinking water facilities for 50,000
people you are not having success in
Yemen that's not your success but I when
I got the clip from your team that was
the first I hadn't seen it before that's
the first thought I had there is a group
that are very close to Trump that want
him to fail in these talks they want war
now he said "We'll do anything we can to
prevent them from getting a bomb." Well
let me tell you something Pete uh Tulsi
Gabber just went before Congress a
couple of weeks ago and said once again
the entirety of the United States
intelligence community asserts that Iran
is not working toward a nuclear weapon
they do not have a nuclear weapon it's
been the same since 2003 when they
stopped working on a nuclear weapon so
good news pete Hexet stop rattling your
saber let some diplomacy uh take uh take
precedent here they're not building a
bomb tulsi said they're not building a
bomb so what's the big deal they are
creating something they're trying to put
Trump in a box to where that's his only
option and that's really dangerous
well during the Biden administration uh
Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin said
"Well we need to see Iran working with
the
IAEA," which they have and the IAEA has
said several times "We've inspected
every gram of uranium." And so Americans
need to start asking the question is
this weapons of mass destruction because
that was a lie you have not proven that
Iran has a nuclear weapon even let's
leave aside the question that Israel has
a nuclear weapon Britain has a nuclear
weapon so why do we decide which friends
we want to have them and which we don't
that's also a pertinent question but
shall we collectively rise up and say
this is weapons of destruction narrative
it's nonsense knock it off and Tom
Cotton said as much the senator from
Arkansas said as much a couple of days
ago a few days ago said "Everyone's
going to say this is going to be so hard
it's going to be essentially he said
it's going to be a cakewalk." and said
"Where do we hear that before?" That was
2002 when all the neocons lined up to
tell us it's going to be a cakewalk even
Netanyahu said "Guys if you take out
Saddam it's going to be peace in the
Middle East." Well we've had nothing but
the opposite since we listened to
Netanyahu and these people are are they
who are they working for Netanyahu or
the American people that's what I would
like to know glenn Diesson tweeted this
daniel uh threatening the use of force
is illegal under international law but
near obligatory under the rules-based
international order it seems like that's
the case right we've just sort of thrown
we've just sort of thrown out you know
uh international law at this point well
I mean given given uh Iran has the most
disincentive to not get a weapon in
other words for the US attacking all of
Israel's enemies in the region the only
thing seemingly that can protect Iran is
if they do get one so if we actually
didn't want them to get one we should
stop getting involved in the Middle East
attacking all of the enemies of Israel
let Israel handle its own its own
affairs in the Middle East you know stop
paying for them stop giving them weapons
they're big boys let them grow up and
act like grown-ups right Grover Lord in
our uh in our Rumble chat says "There's
no stopping the war machine your only
hope is to care for your neighbor as
yourself and pray they do the same." Are
we down to praying now that we just hope
that these war hawks surrounding Trump
who are having it bending his ear keep
you know he clearer heads prevail here
and we'd actually don't go to war well I
I'm a big I'm a big proponent of praying
prayer is prayer can move mountains and
certainly our Lord hopefully will guide
the hands because guess what he's the
prince of peace uh so if you want peace
uh you know they can wrap themselves in
religion and go for war but that's not
how it worked out uh back then guys well
let me tell you this during the Trump
inauguration his speech said we will be
known for the wars we win and the wars
we do not get into and I held to that
like a baby blanket and I'm going to
keep doing that so uh let's join
together and remind the president that
he promised us not to get into new wars
yeah so thank you so much Dan for for
your contribution thanks Dan great to
see you take care guys great to see you
guys again take care all right more news
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United States what is going on here the
most recent one tragically in the Hudson
River of course a helicopter propeller
flying off both propellers flying off
the tail propeller and the main
propeller flying off but why is the
media so like late to tell us like who's
piloting these things why are they
trying to protect the pilots and all of
this uh we're going to talk about
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green scam right that's right the EU was
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the European Commission aditt admitted
recently that it has been using EU funds
that were supposed to fight climate
change for financing left-wing NOS and
climate organizations with the aim of
silencing the voices of conservatives in
this secret influence operation the EU
life program was supposed to be you know
doing what they say fighting climate
change but instead they were financing
left-wing NOS's non-governmental
organizations and climate organizations
and now they've said "Oops sorry we're
not going to do that again." Do we
believe them well Ralph Scholmer joins
us from Austria he is the host of the
Hammer Time Show on YouTube and an
expert on European politics ralph I know
you're so surprised right so surprised
and a personal friend of the show i was
recently told i think that's very
important to me we did in fact we called
you a friend capital F yes friend of the
show friend of the show no that makes me
that that filled me with a lot of joy
and a lot of pride i'm very grateful
that I always have the occasion to speak
to you and the audience i'm truly
grateful yeah it is uh it is not a
surprise but it's even more insidious
than this because let's just look at the
amount over the last seven years we
talking about 7 billion uh euros i think
that's around $9 billion if I'm not if
if I got the exchange rate approximately
right so these are vast sums and by the
way just as a comparison I think it was
about you know a small amount in the
millions that is the reason that Marine
Le Pen has for now at least been banned
from running for the presidency uh in
France where she according to polls
would be the front runner and most
likely to win so you see again these um
there is democracy and then there's
democracy in Europe but what is even
more insidious is so you had this kind
of game that was being played so the
European Union gave money to these NOS's
these NOS's were then writing reports
that the climate catastrophe is nigh and
the world is going to end tomorrow and
then these reports that were funded by
the EU were used by the EU to justify
their climate policies and all the
things that pretty much established the
contact between EU and and I right um
anti-uclear net zero um all the the the
green madness that we've been talking
about for years so this has been a
circle industry it was very lucrative
for all of those involved and of course
everybody who was involved was in one
way or another in touch or related to or
you know in a personal or professional
capacity very close to Europe's leftwing
party so it's not a surprise i'm very
relieved in a sense that this is slowly
but surely coming to the surface but I
hasten to add it is not so different
from what the Trump administration has
uncovered regarding US aid i mean just
to give you an example one person that
I'm sure that many of you American
listeners are familiar with that got
millions out of the US agency for
international development uh was Bill
Crystal and I think Bill Crystal lives
like what uh within the closer urban or
suburban area of Washington DC i mean
how much of US aid money for
international uh development actually
left the beltway so these have all been
slush funds for close to government or
close to EU institutions and what they
built is not so much a deep state i
would say it's actually a shadow state
that constantly exists next to whoever
is in government and this brings me to a
point that I've been making on your show
many times there has been in the past at
least a difference between in office and
being in power and the right sometimes
was in office but the left always was in
power and I'm very happy to see that
under Donald Trump this appears to
change donald Trump is not going to be
perfect right every man is flawed every
individual is flawed but I think in
these areas he's moving very much in the
right direction and apparently it's
contagious in a good way also in Europe
that now we find these things out in
that they have be brought to daylight
but can we just reiterate how this has
made Europeans life worse so while
they're doing this and pumping you with
these BS studies that they funded in
order to continue to raise money it's
such a grift europeans have gone without
we've covered the Dutch farmers many of
them put out of business the the
livestock farmers we've talked about how
how many building projects don't get off
the ground because of oh we have to make
a new rule because we have a new project
um it it's it goes way beyond just you
need a slow flow shower now but actually
Europeans have been asked to live with
less because of this well and can I just
say Ralph also it's intentional it's
intentional right this is an intentional
destruction of Europe we had Christine
Anderson on the show member of
parliament from Germany just the other
day and she said "Yeah this is an
intentional strategy to bring down uh
and it's it's all part of this sort of
globalist agenda." Is it not well give
us some more examples of like the way
that you see that you butt up against
walls trying to live in Europe against
these brick walls that have the facade
of of green climate intention
well if you go back to what you just
mentioned for example one of the
movements that started it all the Dutch
farmers which I think are always a very
good example of this the problem we have
is not so much that there's a globalist
elite i would argue and I'm happy to
have a conversation a discussion about
this that to some extent elites are
always somewhat universal and somewhat
globalist right the jet setters and all
i think this has always been the case
that is not so much the new phenomenon
of the contemporary elites i think what
makes them different is that so many of
the causes that they you know that they
nail to their mast are directly opposed
to the interests of a majority of the
people we have what Rob Henderson is
calling luxury beliefs which are the the
beliefs that the the elites hold but
they are as the term says they are
luxury and they are rich enough and they
can shield themselves from the
consequences of their own ideological
leanings but of course the majority of
the people is paying quite literally but
also metaphorically a very high price
for it i mean take the issue of
migration for example i mean the
Europeans and I would say also the
Americans have been opposed to mass
migration since the 1980s it's not a new
phenomenon and the the elites more or
less stuck the thing into their ear said
nah nah now we cannot hear you and
everybody who's against mass migration
is a Nazi or a fascist or an extreme
right-winger and it made them feel good
about themselves and I think this is one
of the main things that drives the
globalist movement it is not so much the
financial interest because all of them
are very rich already it is more this
kind of messiah complex if you want
right this idea how can you feel good
about yourself and that is if you
promote policies that are horrible for
the working class and for the middle
class but if you're rich enough to
afford it um then you can do it and I
think this is the big issue we have with
this what I call the status quo elites
because we see now that that is people
want change so they vote for parties
that could cause change in the United
States Pen in France the AFD in Germany
the freedom party in Austria but what
they do now is on the one hand they
weaponize the judicial system and the
other thing they do quite openly is as
we saw in Romania they simply annul
cancel elections if the result is not
what they're hoping for and they do it
even more blatantly but let me say one
more thing because I don't want to
monologue for too long but there is this
most recent uh cover page of the
economist that in seriousness says it's
a picture of the of the statue of
liberty that has moved to Europe because
Europe is now the land of the free uh
and and the land of freedom
It's not a continent were you were you
that's like a cartoon oh it is i mean
this you can no longer take this i was
always giving that the benefit of the
doubt because I'm generally positively
inclined towards humanity which is
getting more more difficult but they
really believe that stuff i mean to give
you one quick example um recently police
um accosted a man in the United Kingdom
who was saying that people in England
should speak English oh my god the
horror right you had somebody in Germany
making a meme a pretty funny one a meme
about the minister of the interior
holding up a sign saying "I hate freedom
of speech." He was now um sentenced uh
to 7 months in prison and I can go on
and on and on there examples after
example after example and then you have
a magazine like The Economist saying
Europe land of the free yes if you go
with the program but you could also say
well if you were a bullshik then the
Soviet Union was the land of the free
right and you if you happen to be an
Aryan and not a Jew in Nazi Germany you
could say it was the land of the free
it's it's it's it's we're moving more
and more I think into the the farcical
and satirical part of this but it's it's
frustrating because a new world would
mean that those who are in power now
would have to give up that power and as
we can see they do everything they can
uh to prevent or they do everything they
can to avoid giving up power yeah i mean
the economist is is perfect to lining
your bird cage with um it's like you
know liberal liberal Yeah liberal dril i
mean you had Kier Starmer in the White
House just a few weeks ago face to face
with JD Vance when JD Vance vice
president called him out about clamping
down on freedoms in in England and he
lied right to his face saying that
that's not happening but that's what
these leaders are doing and that's
exactly they know it's happening and
they're championing it but Article 11 of
the EU charter still does allow for
freedom of expression so why can someone
arrested in Germany not appeal to an EU
court is what happens there or or are
they just going to they need to take an
eraser to that oh no this look they they
tried for example the candidate in
Romania was appealing to the European
court because he argued justifiably so
what happened to him was was illegal was
unjustified and the European court just
said no this is not our jurisdiction
they just pretty much cleaned the hands
a bit you're absolutely right and the
problem we have in Europe as you have it
in the United States is that there is an
activist or an ideological judiciary i
mean it's completely absurd to claim uh
that when we all know that particularly
in the universities students are
marinated and indoctrinated into a
certain worldview uh that this would not
also apply to people who study law and
then become you know lawyers judges and
what have you and this is precisely what
you see in Europe and the worst thing is
that they're ideologically indoctrinated
to say that whenever you do this
whenever you prevent democracy from
actually you know doing what democracy
does meaning getting new people into
power get giving new people in in charge
they say you can't allow this to happen
because then you risk democracy so we
have to save democracy and what Kostama
does Kostama is and I say this without
trying to be hyperbolic i think he is in
a way maybe not a totalitarian but he's
definitely an authoritarian what is
happening in the United Kingdom it's not
as bad in the UK sorry it's not as bad
in France it's not as bad in Germany but
what is happening in the UK is basically
that this is no longer a country that
has freedom of speech if you can get
arrested if you can get accosted if you
can get intimidated by the police for
voicing your opinion you do not have
freedom of speech if you have legal
constructs like uh noncriminal hate
incidents where the police can accost
you even though you did not commit a
crime you are no longer a free country
you're trying to intimidate the people
because that's the goal it's as Mao said
punish one educate a thousand and this
is what they try to do in the UK and
other parts of Europe
ralph Schhammer always a voice of reason
in Europe thanking you for uh holding
truth to power over there we really
appreciate it Ralph great to see you as
always thank you thanks for having me
always thanks Ralph all right we've got
more news to get to here on your Monday
we're going to talk about this UFO
incident cia documents showing a really
startling and and as they described it
almost like a fierce incident uh with
actually alien creatures and I'm I'm I'm
going to save it for you because it's
unbelievable james Fox is going to be
joining us of course UFO investigator
documentary filmmaker i'm hope I've hope
you've seen his phenomenal documentaries
over the years like the phenomenon and
his new one the program so James Fox is
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crash last week and last week in the
Hudson River near the Jersey Shore now
the tour company is shutting down for
good but what is this all about this
private charter you know plunged into
the Hudson River in New York City uh
Justin Escobar president and CEO of
Seammens was in Spain and a pilot lost
their lives in this crash along with his
three kids and his wife really tragic on
the same day two American Airlines
regional jets clipped their wings on the
ground at Ronald Reagan
uh National Airport uh former pilot
Boeing whistleblower Jim Desmond joins
us now to talk about all of this and
more jim great to see you as a former
pilot I want to get your sense of are we
seeing like an enhanced or an abundance
of these crashes recently or because of
social media do you think we're learning
more about these crashes well it it
seems to be both ways be honest that
that you you know the news is
instantaneous uh anymore and so uh you
normally when you hear you know wing
tips you know clipping each other on on
an airport normally isn't big news but
when it go comes behind you know the the
crash at Reagan where you had the uh the
um American Airlines and the helicopter
and then this helicopter coming apart uh
out of New York and so uh the clipping
wings is normally something you it
actually happens more often than you
think uh just because it's the the
gateway gates and taxi ways a really
kind of tight and Reagan airport's a
tight airport in and of itself just just
a small footprint there with all the
traffic that they get so I think it it
is a little bit sensationalized but uh
people you know deserve to know what's
what's happening now is it normal that
we don't have very many answers about
say the plane that flipped in Toronto or
the civilian aircraft that was hit by
the Blackhawk uh it seems like the media
cycle of that would continue but the
media is very like this happens moving
on uh is it because the Trump
administration sucks so much air out of
the news cycle or are we are we waiting
for answers that we may not get because
there's a lack of curiosity well the
NTSB the National Transportation Safety
uh Board that actually does all of the
the investigations into just about every
crash that that ever happens and it
takes them months and months sometimes
to to piece it all together and to put
you know gather all the information um
particularly on that helicopter that
just you know looked like it just fell
apart the rotor you know as as we're
getting better and better images from
people that where it looks like the
helicopter and the rotor just separated
uh from each other and which that's just
a very rare you know one in a couple
million uh chances of of that happening
but uh you know we're we're we're
learning a lot more as as time goes on
and that airplane that you know rolled
over that it was Delta that rolled over
and and luckily everybody survived that
was kind of a freak accident that one
and but fortunately everybody lived
through that and with the wings getting
ripped off was quite uh um you know
quite a story and and quite a picture of
of just that that happening and then
everybody lives so you know they I air
traffic controllers are under uh a lot
of stress and unfortunately I think at
Reagan airport and many of the airports
around the US I still fly little
airplanes occasionally and and if you're
going anywhere near a a larger airport
sometimes they'll say no training uh
available or no you know practice
landings are available uh so that you
know it's just airplanes coming in and
out and and they're trying to keep you
know training and other things at bay uh
particularly on busy weekends and and
busy travel times so the the air traffic
controls controllers it's a very
stressful job uh and it for pilots
particularly when you're taxiing and
things like that that's when you're
you're you're sort of the busiest as
soon as you get pushed back from the
gate you're doing you're running
checklist you're talking to ground
control uh and then you you get out in
line and and you're waiting you're
talking to the tower and then you're
talking to departure you're taking the
airplane off and getting it configured
gear up flaps up all of those types of
things you're very busy for about the
first you know half hour or more uh when
you push back from the gate and then
about that last half hour when you're in
for a landing that's unfortunately when
most accidents happen and both of those
you know takeoffs and landings and
that's that's when the pilots are the
busiest i got two question for you one
is about the you know a lot of people
pointing out in our chat room saying
it's DEI it's very easy to sort of paint
a broad brush and say this is all you
know air traffic control DEI uh pilot
DEI hiring you know we're not going to
hire men specifically we that was a few
weeks ago another story that we covered
here on the show um so is DEI at the
heart of a lot of these issues and
number two are there any stories of
these aviation disasters over the past
few months that we've seen since
President Trump has been in office where
you say "Well I I still this doesn't
make any sense to me like I want answers
on this particular story because this
just doesn't pass the smell test
well uh as far as the DEI I'm not sure
what the FAA's hiring standards are if
they got lowered because of DEI then
absolutely but I'm I'm not really quite
sure you know what they what they had
done as far as air traffic controllers
and and they still have to even if
they're standards are lower to get
people in as long as as long as they're
still doing the same training but if
they lowered the standards for training
then absolutely it's a DEI uh then you
know which which should not be permitted
particularly with a a job that this high
high stress level and and uh you you got
to you got to be on top of your game
100% of the time otherwise you know
people's lives are at stake um the
helicopter American Airlines crash is to
me that one was that was the fault that
was human error uh on a couple of parts
uh primarily the the tower should have
told that helicopter that military
helicopter to stay clear of that landing
path even if they were at the I
understood they the helicopter was at
340 ft instead of 200 ft even at 200
feet that's way too close to go
underneath a a landing uh airliner so
that the air traffic control should have
had the heads up and said hey stay clear
until this this traffic lands in front
of you uh that those two airplanes
should you the helicopter and the and
the American Airlines should not have
been in the same airspace at the same
time yes Reagan is busy but uh they
should have that should have never have
happened and to me that one does need
some answers uh particularly I think on
the air traffic control side
well my father is uh he flies small
planes as well and one of the things he
says is that aviation is the second most
safe way to travel behind the American
school bus he says that that is what he
was taught in flight school so what can
we as passengers take from this do can
we still sort of have the trust in
aviation as a mode of transportation and
is that right do you know that have you
also heard that statistic about the
American school bus i haven't heard this
American school bus but I I used to uh
commute I live in San Diego and I used
to drive to LA i was based out of Los
Angeles and then I flew you know to
whatever routes they they had me on and
the most dangerous part was driving
between San Diego and LA uh and then I'd
go fly a three-day trip around the world
and and uh that would be safer than
driving to and from uh home so uh I
wasn't on a school bus but just you know
driving the LA freeways was not uh uh I
felt safer in in the in the air uh for
that but I really you know don't think I
I think aviation is still you know one
of the safest uh means of travel and and
you know there's hundreds of thousands
of flights a day and there's hundreds of
thousands of passengers being carried a
day statistically you know driving in an
automobile is is much more dangerous I
think and and when an airplane crashes
it's much more you know lack of another
term sensationalized uh and because
they're usually very horrific crashes
and and uh they're not uh you know they
gather more more watchers than car
accidents but um I I still think
aviation is very safe and as long as you
know we keep our standards high we don't
just fall into the DEI uh uh scenarios
and and make sure we we hire our merit
and and ability uh you know the airlines
uh you know they used to do that and I I
think they still are but uh those were
criteria that you had to have when I
when I got hired you had to have 2020
vision if you didn't you weren't going
to get hired so they've they've lowered
those types of uh uh limitations but
hopefully for ability and and uh being
able to safely handle the aircraft is
job one
jim Desmond former pilot I think I
called you a Boeing whistleblower
earlier my apologies on that i had
conflated notes here in my stuff but uh
no but um you know at least keeping the
aviation industry honest and yeah I hope
we can get away from this DEI stuff i
know it's been happening in a couple of
different airlines jim great to see you
as always thanks for joining us again
great to see you thanks Clayton hey and
I flew Boeings all my career they're
safe okay there you go all right he's
not a Boeing whistleblower so right well
we know what happens to them right
that's why we want to make absolutely
sure keep this guy safe not a Boeing
whistleblower jim great to see you all
right thanks so much thanks a lot all
right coming up here on the show we're
going to talk about this new CIA UFO
report that's just been released james
Fox uh we're thrilled to have James on
the show i've been wanting to have James
on for like a couple years now so really
excited about that u it's gone viral
about this new this new CIA UFO document
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some UFOs i saw someone earlier in the
chat as we were kicking off the show
said "Yes we're going to talk UFOs today
we're going to talk aliens." We
absolutely are we're going to do it with
James Fox here in a second so a viral
CIA document has just resurfaced online
it's blown up with some fresh intrigue
the declassified file posted on the
CIA's website describes a bizarre Cold
War era incident involving a supposed
alien attack on Soviet soldiers
according to the report which draws from
the Canadian and Ukrainian sources
Soviet troops allegedly shot down a UFO
during a training exercise sometime
around 1989 or 1990 we'll tell you all
about how crazy this thing unfolds here
in just a second i want to save that for
you in a second but today we've got
filmmaker UFO investigator James Fox
joining us you know him from
documentaries like Moment of Contact and
The Phenomenon which dig deep into some
of the most compelling UFO encounters on
record and his latest is called The
Program james let me just show a little
teaser here before I say hello to you
here is the program watch in 2017 the
New York Times published a story
exposing a secret government program
investigating UFOs
that story was kind of a catalyst for a
lot of things that have happened since
members of Congress started to ask
questions instruments report there is
something there there are flight
characteristics that we can't explain
uaps are unexplained it's true they need
to be investigated
here we are having a hearing where just
a few years ago we didn't even
acknowledge that these things were real
there he is james Fox is the man behind
these great documentaries and he's a
fantastic UFO investigator and James I
always what I love about your work is
you come at it from a real I think
almost like I should say skeptical point
of view and a real clear-headed point of
view when you approach these stories so
I wanted to have you on because this
story seemed like right up your alley
first maybe you want to give a maybe
paint a picture for us what you think of
this story the CIA document from that's
resurfaced absolutely so uh one thing
that I can say obviously we're looking
at a document that was previously
classified that leaked george Knap has a
bunch of previously classified documents
that he sort of snuck out of Russia in
the mid 90s that revealed incursions
from UFOs over you know ICM ICBM base in
Ukraine where they UFOs allegedly
activated a couple missiles that were
direct to the United States and and
started a missile launch a missile
launch which was terrifying um and then
after I guess that the Russians
developed a no hands down no shoot
policy but uh against UFOs because of
obviously their displayed or their
exhibited technology flies rings around
what we can do but I will say I did
speak directly with a general uh Parvis
Jafari in Tyrron Iran who had a really
dramatic encounter with a UFO uh in 1975
or 76 and
he tried to shoot it out of the sky and
famous incident very famous incident and
I spoke to him personally i flew him in
to Washington DC to testify at the
National Press Club with Leslie Kaine
and he said that he thought he was going
to have to jump out of his airplane in
the middle of the night because this UFO
froze everything in his cockpit and uh
like it read his mind as he was about to
shoot this thing he's gonna literally
has it in his sights he's going to pull
the trigger and his airplane just
completely freezes up so there was a a
policy adopted I think internationally
when you see UFOs don't take a hostile
aggressive position just leave them
alone and they won't bother you so my
gosh reading although that's kind of
ballsy though to think about even
shooting it did he tell you why he
thought to do
that towards him well no because he said
you know when you see something as
you're trained as a military person a
fighter pilot when you see something in
the sky that you're unable to identify
and it's not revealing its identity you
got to shoot it out of the sky you have
to think of it as as potentially hostile
and this thing apparently was flying
rings around his F4 Phantom jet and but
he got a lock on it and he was literally
said he was a bead away from pulling
trigger to try to shoot this thing out
of the sky and that's when all hell
broke loose so which begs the question
if they can read his mind why can't they
teleport or you know telepathically say
we're not hostile we're not doing you
know like there's just so many questions
it's really interesting you know I
interviewed this gentleman years later
uh I flew him out to Washington DC along
with another a number of other military
and government officials from seven
countries and he was reflecting back on
the incident and he said "You know James
one of my biggest regrets was I didn't
try and make peaceful contact with this
thing instead I took an aggressive
hostile approach and tried to shoot it
out of the sky when it wasn't
threatening me in any way." And it's
interesting you know there are other
documents that have leaked out uh since
uh that alleged incident in I think it
was late well gosh it was actually late
' 80s but there was a landing case that
happened in Moscow trying to remember
the name of it Von Vaness Vonith 1989
and these aliens allegedly uh made
contact with children and that happens
all around the world so you wonder if
the military is going to take a hostile
position perhaps and if you did want to
make contact and again I'm speculating
but it's informed speculation i would
probably rather make contact with
children than fighter jets sure so let
me I want to go through this document a
little bit here the the CIA document
here so what um I mean what this read
like it reads like science fiction but
according to the CIA document five
humanoid beings reportedly emerged from
the wreckage they fused together and
then they admitted a blinding flash of
light then they allegedly turned after
they were shot yeah this was after they
were shot down apparently which is even
more amazing then they turned after they
were shot down they turned 23 soldiers
into
stone only two men survived the remains
were reportedly moved to a secret lab
near Moscow where scientists found the
soldiers molecular structure matched
that of limestone what the I mean I've
heard a lot of UFO stories over the
years of course I'm fascinated by it but
I've never heard of a story like this
have you in Greek mythology I've heard I
could I could tell you of dozens and
dozens of close encounters of the third
kind that's when people report entities
connected with the craft all around the
world china Russia Australia Africa
Brazil I mean United States we've had
amazing close encounters of a third kind
extremely well documented um but people
taking aggressive position towards
alleged aliens and then being turned to
stone that's a first yeah i mean Natalie
brings up a great point Greek mythology
mhm i mean maybe you know you turn on
ancient aliens you can certainly see a
lot of you know connections between
things that have happened thousands of
years ago i mean I don't want to make a
huge leap here but maybe there is
something there look you know you look
at uh Jacques Filet who's one of the
intellectual heavyweights within the
scientific community who's investigated
UFO reports for his his entire career
and he's in his 80s he wrote a book
called Wonders in the Sky and it
basically documents since recorded time
uh these alleged close encounters of the
third kind close encounters of the
second kind cave art wall just dating
back thousands and thousands of years so
it it's my it's my opinion in the
opinion of many other researchers that
the phenomenon is nothing new it's been
interacting with humanity for since the
dawn of uh recorded time where where do
you come down on disclosure right now
and what you're seeing from the Trump
administration i've representative you
know had we had Representative Luna on
the show we had Congressman Burchett on
the show a few weeks ago i mean all
trying to move in this direction but I
think Americans get you know get like
stuck in the mud like where are we with
all of this you've been a huge asset to
help in this as well that that's a
fantastic question and that's one of the
one of the things I've been addressing
because people I think are feeling
really frustrated within the UFO
community like you've gotten we've had
three congressional hearings in the last
three years two of which we've had high
level intelligence officers testify to a
bipartisan group of lawmakers under oath
there are consequences for lying to
Congress under oath that we have a crash
retrieval program that we are in
possession of definitive proof that we
are not alone bodies and craft now those
are some really lofty allegations that
the implications are so profound that we
owe it to ourselves to continue this
push for transparency support the
lawmakers so what I've been doing I
feature a couple of people that are
apparently firsthand witnesses in the
program the film that I've got out right
now and I'm asking them it's really
frustrating when you tell us there's so
many things that you can't say on camera
what is it going to take and essentially
the what I'm getting is President Trump
can wave the magic wand with an
executive order and relieve us of our
NDAs and free from violating our
national security oaths and I'll give
you the street addresses so that's where
this is heading and I think that uh you
know there's there I've got a we have a
few projects we we basically want to
hand the administration on a platter
excuse me the names uh of these
individuals and just say "Hey wave the
magic wand they'll give you the street
addresses."
Wow well I think I think that's what
it's going to have to take because
you're right we get we get all we get
you know uh we get the Grashes up there
we get David Grush we get these other
people who tell us about the crash
retrieval program we hear about these
recovered biologics or bodies uh Luis
Alzando and others testifying before
Congress and then you have these you you
Congress sort of butting heads with the
Pentagon right now like what can we
declassify what can we admit to the
American people and President Trump has
said on day one full transparency so it
is it going to it's going to fully I
guess come down to him with a pen so
very interesting i had a a meeting um
with the new head of Arrow John
Kluskclowski and uh there were certain
aspects of the meeting that I was not
allowed to to talk about publicly
because it's kind of an ongoing
investigation but one of the things he
said to me which I thought particularly
interesting was look he said I
can't like cut my own hair or or you
know style my own hairdo without the
approval of the DoD so my hands are tied
in a sense he's saying no matter what we
uncover no matter what like conclusions
that we draw based on our investigations
for
Congress our hands are tied if if DoD
doesn't approve it we can't release that
right now this is interesting because
you got David Grush who testified under
oath right and he's like I gave all the
details needed to verify these
accusations these allegations uh to
Thomas Mannheim who was the ICIG
intelligence community inspector general
at the time or one of them and uh it's
amazing to me that he says that and
we're how come the media hasn't tried to
follow up with with with him you know
get an interview with Thomas apparently
he has the street addresses he has all
the details that we need to verify these
and the DoD took the clearances away
from Grush because they knew that if
Grush could get into a skiff with
members of select members of Congress he
would reveal all those details that he
can't say publicly and Congress isn't
known for keeping secret so it would
leak out so Grush was stripped and I
don't know if he's gotten him back since
then but I know that he was stripped of
his clearances
what do you say to people because I
always see this in our chat you know
we're live right now in front of tens of
thousands of people and occasionally
I'll see someone in the chat room just
say "This is all a scop it's all a
scop." When you've been so deeply
involved in this for generations of
research what do you say to someone who
says "This is all a scop James." I I
think that's I I completely understand
that position and I've actually
explained this to people in the past one
of the reasons why I aligned with David
Grush when he was testifying under oath
in fact I had tears pouring down my face
because I had just done a crash
retrieval case that I spent 15 years
investigating that took place in
Virginia Brazil in uh 1996 and after I
think 12 or 13 years it came to my
attention through very compelling
eyewitness testimony that the Americans
were involved the Americans flew in the
the gentleman called it USAF United
States Air Force flew in without
Brazilian government authorization
landed their plane in this exact area
where this stuff was recovered loaded
some stuff up and flew back to the
United States all secret below the radar
and I was going "Oh my gosh the
Americans were involved i can't believe
this." So what David Grush has said
aligns with my 30 plus years of research
in countries all around the world and so
um if I didn't have that field research
I might say okay I might I can see but
I'm also meeting with these intel folks
that are complaining about excessive
secrecy and putting their um putting
theirelves in potential harm's way by uh
you know trying to get this information
out remind your audience because people
go "Oh the government just sort of had
epiphany out of nowhere and decided that
the general public needs to know more
about UFOs." That's not what happened
there were a couple of in government
insiders or intel insiders that decided
through protests of excessive secrecy to
walk some evidence found a loophole walk
some evidence but it was risky out of
the Pentagon and onto the front page of
the New York Times and that is why
they've not been able to put the genie
back in the bottle it's made you know
elected representatives aware of like oh
my gosh maybe there's a lot more to UFOs
than than swamp gas and misidentified
aircraft and now you know in in the
program now we've got a we've got a
gentleman who sat in with senators with
alleged firsthand witnesses on the
program that are actually the metal
benders people that are working on this
stuff in labs underground and
um yeah we're living in exciting times
but we but our representatives need to
hear from us they need to hear from us
that we support these efforts
well we're going to have Congressman
Luna back on here we talked about her
being back on to talk specifically about
UFOs so um maybe we could get the two of
you on i'd love to have both of you on
simultaneous do that would love that i'm
working with firsthand witnesses that
want they want to be able to tell the
public in fact one of them said to me
"I'm doing this for my grandchildren
this is why I'm coming forward i don't
want my grandchild to grow up Yeah not
knowing the truth." Well a lot of them I
was just going to say it i didn't mean
to cut you up but a lot of them you know
on their deathbeds you know who served
in the military and were a part of these
programs finally admitted they were
sworn to secrecy under classified they
they told their kids when they were
dying so you know we need to get past
this um I just want to say James I I
love your work i if one of my favorite
movies one of my favorite documentaries
is The Phenomenon um I haven't yet seen
the program i've just been we've been
moving and building a st new studio so
that's on my sort of when I'm finally
done with all that hard work I'm going
to sit down and enjoy myself and watch
your newest uh newest film um and uh
really excited to see that so just
amazing work i highly recommend our
audience go check out your documentaries
where's the best place they can find
them are they on available to buy are
they where do you rent them amazon you
could rent it you can rent the program
on Amazon for a few bucks you can buy it
uh you can go to Apple TV um and then
Moment of Contact and The Phenomenon are
available on a few free streaming uh
sites platforms you can just Google the
phenomenon moment of contact and the
program which has just came out a couple
months ago and that's on Amazon and it's
on um Apple TV
well James thank you so much james Fox
it's been a thrill having you here i'd
love to do have you back we'll do a deep
dive interview if you if your schedule
allows it in the next couple of weeks
how does that sound would love it i
really appreciate you guys having me on
thank you very much and by the way I'm
going to say this to my wife James i
want to join you like on a if you go on
a big assignment somewhere where you
need somebody to come kind of tag along
this is not news to Natalie yes this is
not news to me we've been married 15
years i said if I Yeah I will I will
bring you I will bring you to Brazil i'm
serious yes I would love to yes I I'm
serious speak Portuguese so yes I I
speak the language so I would better
exactly james great to see you thank you
so much for your incredible work and
yeah we'd love to have you back on here
we'll do a deep dive we'll get you on
with Congressman Luna if our schedules
align thank you so much good to see you
anytime and I appreciate very much what
you guys do and thank you for having me
on awesome thanks James appreciate it
you know I'm thinking to myself okay
that's that's not a bad way to go be
turned into stone but what if they're
still alive in there that would be
turned into limestone and then someone
has to turn you back you're still alive
in there right that's where my mind went
and then you're stuck there watching and
you're just sort of and you're just
frozen in in stone for the rest of all
time this is like this I this is the
great Greek tragedy right all right well
that's going to do it for us today first
day again in a new studio we are in
transit that's why it may not be what
you're used to but uh you get the same
players don't hate the players right
yeah david and Philip and Grim were able
to get the everything sort of lined up
here as quickly as they could um while
we're building out the new studio so
this is like our temporary dig so we're
going to dial in some stuff after
today's show so thank you for thank you
for allowing us to come to your house we
will be back with you tomorrow
tomorrow's tax day so try and come in a
good mood if you can uh but we will see
you here tomorrow thanks for being here
everybody